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In a continual saga of nightmares...we take you to BetHoldem....where when there is a pair on the board you can be almost assured someone else has trips if not quads. Where the odds can be so stacked against you...you will somehow beat your opponent. Where i can honestly say.......the random nature of cards does not exist. We take you to hand number 714,556,394...hero has AA and goes all in for 35.00...villian has JQ suited and goes all in for the same amount. We now take you to the flop and community cards for a flop that is second to none. the cards in order are...J/Q/J/Q/8....villian wins with full house Q over jacks...actually he had 3 of a kind jacks and queens..the odds against this preflop were what if we were to guess about 10,000 to 1....but it happened. I'm not upset about losing the 35 bucks im upset about how non random said cards are.....one after the other...is this for real....no wonder some only play cards live. No friggin way..another hand i have QQ pre flop the flop comes AA8...i think my queens are still good cause the odds he would have an ace are not short..well he had A/K............let's try to duplicate this with a deck of cards....this has gotten to the point of putting good money into a bad investment....a bad gamble...i was better off with the horses and sports betting. What a bunch of crapppppppppp
 

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Been playing at Bet Hold Em today and got my aces cracked twice already. Just been kinda a wierd day....all in preflop both times to reraises..vs. QQ and 88. Both times they hit the river to beat me.
I am like wtf... But owell It happens. But I was also saying no Q ...and No 8..and my negative energy probally had some effect on the river....lol.

You'll run into some hands like that, but atleast its no where near party Poker or Poker Stars after a withdrawal. On Party , I was watching PPP tourney the other night and seen in 3 instances - in a very short time , where someone with qj would been dominated and , like clock work the turn or river or both would kill a hand like kk or aa ..And these are all in preflop , so not much play after that.

Hey look at this way, at least you'll get a little back from your rakeback.

BOL ..today

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ahhh come on now.....i was playing the tuesday tourney at the bike....$390 buy in with bounties.....

about an hour into the tourney i call a small raise in position with 44.....flop is QQ4.

i lose......

the guy has QQ.....yeah and online poker is rigged right?
 

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No shit...u just THINK online poker is rigged....man the badbeats i have taken at the local casino could drive a man to drink....i used to think online was at the very least "funny"....im not so sure anymore, with the exception of B.D and yea that damn river at Stars is funny as all hell but believe me these things i see live have no rival.....todayfor example.i have pckt Q's....raise 5 x the BB...have not played a hand and ive benn at the table probably 40 mins....ive got big pair written all over my face ok? everybody folds but 1 donkey....flop is 789...i put the lady all-in but 20 bucks...im tryin to be nice , im a great guy ya know......turn is a 4...wat could she possibly have? well i doubt the 4 helped so i ck...river is a 10....my QQ....her QJ!!!!!!!!! OS!!!!!!! 6-1 DOG TO COMPLETE HER INSIDE STRAIGHT DRAW.....TILT??????? MAN I WAS SO FRICKIN MAD I COULDA SCREAMED.....

Yesterday....ive got pckt 10's..raise PF, this was limit....flop was a pr and a 4...i bet, everyone folds but i shit u not a 80 yr old woman....turn is nothing i bet again ..she calls.....river is another 4..i bet again she calls.....yep u guessed it...she had J4....CALLED DEAD THE WHOLE FRICKIN WAY AND HIT A FULL HOUSE ON THE gd RIVER!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS LIVE POKER!!!!!!!!! NOT NO INTERNET....LIVE!!!!!!!!

By the way in PP20k last night, i cracked AA 3 times....want to bet 2 of the 3 are posting somewhere today saying online poker is rigged???????? its not!!!!! its poker!!!!!! the cards are in the deck......THEY CAN COME OUT...WHEN U DONT WANT THEM TO!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Guys if you can't handle the miracle bad beats.....waste your money on something else. I mean I have been the guy that loves to crack the guy who plays one hand per 40 minutes. I have sat down at a NL table and told my self that the first 200 is to set the mood of the table. I may lose it in 10 minutes. Once I know where I stand at the table I adjust my playing style accordingly then.

During tourneys I will start playing hands I should NEVER play in the hopes of limping or calling and cracking on the flop.

I love it when people say online is rigged. Well I have watched the WPT tour on the Travel channel and would almost think that THAT is rigged watching 3 outer after 3 outer crack 95% fav hands on the river. IT"S POKER!! The handest thing about poker is the fact that you can play your cards "systematically perfect" and still end up losing $30k a year. I was that "fight the guy who sucked out on me" before. Then I realize that half of those bad beats are due to poor betting on my part and the other half are that fact that once you get all your money in the pot you can't bluff someone on an all-in. The cards come out, you win or you lose. Nothing else.

I love this poker boom as the casinos are now full of people who feel that since they can win at their weekly card game, has ESPN, and have read a magazine or two they know what is going on.

FUNNY !!!! :money:
 

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It's to the point where i dont think its feasible anymore. I'm not looking to go brke and if this continues i might. I just read about pattern mappers so that ads some more adventure. Maybe there is to much luck in this so called skill game...too much for me.
 

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Hockey im sure your frustrated, read some of mty posts from the lsat year you will see that i feel your pain....plus some!! id like to think however that ive reached another level now...still not pro, not even in the league of bozzi or matt for sure but i know im better now than i was a year ago.....now its higjly possible that im not a lick better and im just runnin hot right now, certainly i havent gotten any better at controling my emotions which is by far my biggest leak in my game...however after almost 3 years now of almost daily play i have a lot more experiance and have cut my blatant errors down alot....1 of the biggest lessons ive learned is no matter what you have in your hand..there are 5 cards yet to come and after those 5 anything can change....i know you dont want to wait 3 years for things to change...im suggesting everyone ck out pokerxfactor.com. its not free but neither is losing. i can honestly say this is the quickest way on the face of the earth shy of moving in with matt to change your game...these guys are pros..pro poker players AND pro teachers.they will help your game...give em a shot, things can change for you.
 

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hockey8799 said:
I just read about pattern mappers so that ads some more adventure.
Don't fall for it. For the uninitiated, there was a guy a few years ago who was selling something that he guaranteed would beat Party Poker. It was a list of patterns of wins/losses. All you had to do was send him money and he'd mail you the secret. Then you just sat down at a table, matched up the pattern you were in, and then just bet your brains out whenever the pattern indicated you were due for a winning hand. It was one of the worst scams I remember. His manual was posted on 2+2 a long time ago. If I can find it I'll post it here on the condition that you use it and play me heads up.:>Grin>

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Maybe there is to much luck in this so called skill game...too much for me.
This is a really important point. There are some games where luck is a lesser component, 5 card stud and razz, for instance. They make lousy games because the pros kill the fish quickly and are left to play only with each other. A successful poker game must have the right proportion of luck and skill. That's why limit hold'em and stud are so successful (and will continue to be). Without some luck the better players will ruin the newcomers so fast that the games will die.

When luck runs against you there is only one cure: play more hands. Maybe not today, especially if your fuming...but you've got to give the cards an opportunity to distribute themselves equally. Play more hands!

If you're at the stage that you fear going broke you should move down in limits and work on your game. You can only go broke if you're underbankrolled. Make sure the game fits your bankroll and you'll be fine. Good luck to you.
 

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dont play ring games instead do some money management on tournaments.

If your initial stake is 250.00 then play 23 10 dollar tournaments. If you get your stake up to 500 then bump up to 20 dollars.
 

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im thinking tournaments might be the way to go...thanks for all the feedback guys
 

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Keep us posted on your tourney adventure. I think MTTs are by far the "swingiest" form of poker, so they wouldn't be my first choice if I was trying to get away from variance, but I am interested in how your experiment goes. Best of luck to you.

By the way, I did find that scam pattern mapper e-book. I don't think the mods would appreciate me posting the whole thing, but I'll try to post a few pearls of wisdom when I have the time.
 

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Here you go; if I don't do it now I'll never get around to it. The ebook is a PDF, so the only way I can share this beauty is to save it as text. That means the formatting will suck. You can put up with it for the laugh value. Here's the first thing you read after you have paid your money and DL'ed the book. How would you feel?

Party Poker Cracked.

This is what you have been waiting for so let.s get right to it. This is not
some 400-page book that will bore you. It is designed to be brief, effective,
and to be easily mastered. Please note the Poker Chart, as you
should refer to it often while reading this. I personally have it taped to
the wall next to my computer for easy reference when I gamble online.
When I go to the casino and play limit Texas Holdem I usually win 4 out of
5 times. I play tight and aggressive. When I first started playing online I
couldn.t believe how diverse the players were. I was winning 1 out of 5
sessions online. What a joke I thought. I know I am good but why am I
losing so much?
Due to privacy, I will not tell anyone how much money I made on
Party Poker.com last year but I can tell you that my play money
account is over 60 million dollars (note the screen shot)!
This book will help you win consistently when gambling online, playing NO
LIMIT poker. Can I guarantee that? Absolutely not. I can.t control your
sessions, but after applying the principles in this book you should be much
better off and find your way to huge success.

I have bolded the first indication that you have been taken. The book is 27 pages long and it is a classic scam. The author advises that his proven methods will need to be practiced for hours...but in the end you'll win. It's pretty sad. I'll paste in one of his sure fire patterns that you should be looking for.

Party Poker pays off in cycles of 10. Precisely? NO!
Here are the patterns (the main cycle is 9-12 hands)
W L L L L L L L L L L L W
W L L L L L L L L L L W or
W L L L L L L L L L W or
W L L L L L L L L W
Those are the main cycles of hands each player will win regardless if
anyone folds.
Here is the GRAVY winning sub cycles.
W W (10% or less OF THE TIME AFTER A WIN)
W W W (EXTREMELY RARE)
W L W
W L L W
W L L L W
These subcycles come together most of the time. Something like this:
W L W L L W L L W or
W L L L W L L W LL W
Then after 5 consecutive losing hands the cycle of roughly 10 starts over
so it.s like this:
W L L L L L L L L L L W or any of the other 10 cycle possibilities.
Here is a string example: W L L L L L L L L W L W L L W L L L W
L L L L L L L L L L W W L L W L L W L L L L L L L L L W L L W
L W L W L L L L L L L L L L W ETC. ETC.
It is also possible to see a losing streak of 20 or so losses, especially when
you are really up a lot of winnings. So watch out.

"So watch out" indeed. It's been a few years, but as I remember it he was charging $20. He closes out the book wishing you good luck and hoping to see you at the tables. I don't blame him.
 

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